How Many Of You Rely Solely On Fusion's Internal Keyers?
Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:19 PM
Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:56 PM
Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:57 PM
Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:16 PM
So you use both Nuke and Fusion? If you are already keying on Nuke why not doing the rest on Nuke as well?
Yeah, I like Keylight and Primatte a lot.This is why I asked the question.
I never used Ultrakeyer but I heard Keylight and Primatte it ain't.
I don't have Fusion yet but I'm seriously considering moving to it. But the keyer things is certainly holding me back. I don't want to have to buy Keylight and Primatte on the top of Fusion's price.
Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:02 AM
The problems is that it's not going to have all the one button solutions like in keylight or primatte, but it's an excellent keyer, specially when combined with many other fusion tools like the matte control and chroma keyer.
If you're under a tight schedule for a project and you don't know the Fusion keyer very well, then I would suggest sticking with what you know, but I've never had an instance where I couldn't key something with the Fusion Keyer.
Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:53 AM
Posted 24 February 2010 - 03:36 AM
Posted 24 February 2010 - 04:19 AM
Never got a nice despill out of Primatte that did what I wanted without turning the skin tones purple. I only ever use it for the alpha channel and do despilling with Fusion's tools as well as some custom macros to blend background colors into the spill area.
I've used keylight in AfterEffects years ago and it was great. But maybe only because the other AfterEffects keyers sucked so much :-)
I really miss something like Nuke's IBK on Fusion. Is this all black magic or is it just a question of grabbing some public Siggraph papers and implementing it?
Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:32 AM
Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:03 AM
I've used Primatte on one or two shots, but usually found that I got better and more predictable results with Ultrakey and a few manual adjustments.
Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:17 PM
Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:19 PM
Thanks for posting! Gonna have a look at it as soon as I can
Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:36 AM
I was just about to ask if there is a good keyer for Fusion which can use cleanplates, then I noticed your post. I downloaded the macro's you posted. I'm missing something here. It's not completely clear to me how the nodes should be connected (for example, in the 'softkeyer6" there is a "cleanplate" option, but in which input should I connect the cleanplate? What does the "cleanplater" node do? Is there a tutorial on the web? Can you post an example comp?
Thanks for the effort!
all the best,
Posted 25 February 2010 - 11:07 AM
I thought Fusion had a difference keyer?
You can use a clean plate with a difference keyer.
Posted 25 February 2010 - 11:48 AM
I found that difference keyer in Fusion a little bit bad actually.... So I hoped that there was some kind of keyer in which you can plugin your cleanplate to 'advance" your keying. Afcourse you can do this manually by using a difference key and than use that as your garbage mask in your real keyer for example. But still I'm very curious about the macro's posted above!
all the best
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